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Wow, another amazing Rick post! Part of the history of jazz has been repeated in West African drumming. Traditionally, there are three dunnuns(barrel drums played with sticks) each with a bell, and three drummers on them. Each drum would be mounted sideways. The ensemble would also include lead and accompainment djembe players. To save travel and payroll costs when the groups toured, the drums were turned vertically and put in a 'kit' so a single drummer could play all three of them at once. Regarding drum machines, as a drummer I am uninterested in them, but like Rick, interested in extending the natural tonality of my accoustic drums. Rick, any discussion of technique here on that is welcome. As I said once before, it's weird but fun to take my beautiful, natural accoustic drums and make them sound like cheap drum machines. Yours in rhythm, Steve --------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:07:06 -0700 From: "Rick Walker/Loop.pooL" <GLOBAL@cruzio.com> To: "Loopers Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: OT: Drum machines vs. Human beings Dave wrote: "Years ago I read an interview with Stan Ridgeway, then still with Wall of Voodoo, where he said that drum machines ought to sound like appliances. I liked that. If you want human feel, get a human! " I laughed at this quote! There is a place where I agree. I have been a professional drummer and multi-percussionist all of my adult life and am constantly besieged with questions about both drum machines, sequencers and looping devices............."Aren't you afraid of putting musicians out of work" These are my thoughts about this sort of question and my feelings about drum machines in general. ... I feel like the companies are trying as hard as possible to make their drum machines sound realistic and I'm heading in the opposite direction................I guess I just dig the "NEW". I'd be happy to talk about some creative ways for looping drummers to create new timbres for their acoustic drums that sound like they are on a Portisehead record or whatever. Again, just let me know. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com