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On Thursday, June 13, 2002, at 12:42 AM, Andre LaFosse wrote: > timestretching in particular is an intriguing > proposition to me. (BTW - your points were really good. Why do I feel like I'm getting a mature slap in the face at times :) The timestretching feature is incredible. Using another looper to take over the rhythmic part of the piece, try switching the BPM down to one. Route the looper through some sort of effects unit - just to fill out the noise as it becomes a little low quality at this speed... The harmonics are amazing! Very beautiful ambient, morphing drones. Its the same with vocals.... The pitch shift feature is great, and would be better if I could find a bass organ midi floorboard to operate it with. Being able to change the key of the loops whilst in 'bounce' mode is pretty inspiring. However, intervals greater than a 5th do degrade. If you want a true octave sound, go through an effects box. My gripes with the Midi implementation might be a little biased. I agree that with the correct hardware (intelligent Midi controllers and lots of pedals), you could have an amazing level of control - however, I'm on a limited budget and currently only have access to an FC200. Its frustrating that I can only use 50% of the features hands-free :( The loop extending feature is the reason why I purchased a Repeater. Basically, my rhythm sucks (it is non-existent), so a way to get around this is to record a short loop with a single attack, and extend that to 16/32/64/128/256 beats - a kind of organic metronome. And also, being able to mix four tracks live is incredible.... The unit has many more features/tricks that I am only just beginning to stumble upon. I *DO* love my Repeater.... :) and yes, I'm too much of a moaning perfectionist :) -- Stuart Wyatt - Solo String Project http://www.solostring.com stuart@solostring.com