Re: ambient then rhythmic?

["Clifford Novey" <om@Om-Studios.com>]

The closest I come is starting ambient on the Repeater and using the 
ambient
loop tempo as the tempo to sync the rhythm with. (In your case the original
10 second loop would act as the final rhythmic cycle) Basically you want 2
different loop lengths which you will actually need 2 units for- you could
use Digitech PDS-8000 pedal, Akai Headrush, Line6 DL4, etc to do the
ambient- then do the rhythmic on the Repeater- which will act as master
clock after you establish your loop- you will sometimes need to adjust the
time sig on Repeater to make your rhythm machines play nice-

Another thought-  you could create the ambient loop on Rptr, adjust the BPM
for rhythm, and see if the resulting ambient loop sounds good or not- it
will have been stretched/compressed depending on your BPM change.

Cliff

----- Original Message -----
From: <DialaThos@aol.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:39 PM
Subject: ambient then rhythmic?


> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone here do loop pieces that perhaps start out in ambient fashion
(no
> real time) and then move into looped rhythmic parts?  I'm trying to 
>figure
> out how one might do this.  Is it necessary to have two units?
>
> I own a Repeater and it seems as though if you start freely there's no 
>way
to
> then lay down something with a pulse.  In otherwords if you have say 10
> seconds of "ambient" and then start a rhythmic phrase that might be 12
> seconds.. you're out of luck if you want it to line up cleanly with the
> start/stop point, unless of course you keep the "ambient" material to a
set
> bpm and length to begin with (I'd like to be free with it).
>
> Is there a way to do this on the EDP?  I'm hunting through the manual
today,
> but it seems the only way to extend the length of a loop is via insert
(which
> doesn't overdub on the original material).
>
> For those of a more graphical nature, I'm trying to do this:
>
> step 1 - AAAAAAAAAA
> step 2 - RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>
> Hope this makes sense,
> Tom
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