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Mark- nope. i'm finding it difficult to describe what (how) I do what I do, it's a combination of feeding a fixed delay into another delay and each of them is tweakable in real time, pitch en toto, and also having one fixed against one that is shifting sans pich making for a sliced forward effect, sorta hypnotic. i use an edp and a few digitech units. i've modded a few switchs that help me do cv control in real which is somtething that did in fact come through when i was going though my heavy Fripp phase, overloading on Exposure, and dh's Sacred Songs. i was/am impressed with the effect he would get, and listened ltpf, and it hit me, what rf does was almost the sound but he didn't manipulate it in the direction that i lean which is a bit more aggresive. that and shunning any other effect make for something different. so i kinda got some mojo from rf! best, Pedro --- Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> wrote: > Would what you're describing be akin to what Robert > Fripp does with his > soundscapes? I used to play a lot with a similar > effect, using a > harmonizer where I could control the pitch with one > pedal, and then > control the delay time with another pedal. This > seemed like it was > grandulating the sound, and pitchshifting it all > over the place. Having > the feedback on high worked really well. I kind of > abandoned that > effect when I started hearing it A LOT on stuff, but > it's still fun. To > do it well, you've got to have the two pedals, and > be sitting on a stool > so you can work the both at the same time like some > other looping > guitarist we all know... > > Mark Sottilaro > > Pedro Felix wrote: > > > hey Evan I think you may be on to something: > > strange sometimes how i mentioned this subject > several > > times since October of last year, and when I > mention > > that I have been doing some form of what I call > SONIC > > Snowflaking the list goes limp. > > now what I am attempting to do pushes the envelope > > which is why I am interested in what others are > doing, > > et cetera. > > otherwise the waters will part, Pedro Felix - NYC > 2002 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com