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Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: > >now what I am attempting to do pushes the envelope > i'm certainly glad that you do what you do w/looping, p, but -for myself- > i've come to realise that i've yet to see any 'envelope'..... 'envelope' > (when it comes to music/art/looping) seems to be a social/consensual > function, and thereby, somewhat suspect as regards any kinda *personal* > benchmarks for expression..... > > some people think that trey anastasio is pushing the 'envelope', some >folks > see radiohead as pushing the 'envelope', some believe that pauline >oliveros > pushes the 'envelope', some folks see fiona apple as p.t.e, some feel >that > garbage p.t.e., john adams, moby, etc etc. > so, where *is* the edge of the damned envelope? > i opine that: > if it's there, at all, it's gonna recede from view..... endlessly. I don't think there is any one envelope, but any individual can push their own envelope, which simply means they are trying to do something new. Probably anyone doing looping fits in this category!