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dt - good word i came across- yugen, best decribes what i'm after. my imagination (art) displaying the other side of what i am able to see. just a sense of the other side, but digging (trusting) it. pf --- Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: > pf, > > >hey Evan I think you may be on to something: > >strange sometimes how i mentioned this subject > several > >times since October of last year, and when I > mention > >that I have been doing some form of what I call > SONIC > >Snowflaking the list goes limp. > no idea what evan said, here, but..... > for myself, i was not attempting to describe > 'granular looping': i was just > quoting kim flint's personal EDP-oriented > explication thereof, for someone > who wanted to know from whence said thread began. > anyway..... > there's no telling whatall this list might fancy, as > far as threads go..... > > >now what I am attempting to do pushes the envelope > i'm certainly glad that you do what you do > w/looping, p, but -for myself- > i've come to realise that i've yet to see any > 'envelope'..... 'envelope' > (when it comes to music/art/looping) seems to be a > social/consensual > function, and thereby, somewhat suspect as regards > any kinda *personal* > benchmarks for expression..... > > some people think that trey anastasio is pushing the > 'envelope', some folks > see radiohead as pushing the 'envelope', some > believe that pauline oliveros > pushes the 'envelope', some folks see fiona apple as > p.t.e, some feel that > garbage p.t.e., john adams, moby, etc etc. > so, where *is* the edge of the damned envelope? > i opine that: > if it's there, at all, it's gonna recede from > view..... endlessly. > > i'm babbling, again..... > > >which is why I am interested in what others are > doing, > tutto bene, dude. > best, > dt / splattercell > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com