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Good review! this is the first I've noticed that makes mention of additional algorithms that don't appear in the stompbox. I didn't know this. Are there really new types of echo in the echo pro? I know the loop thing is 60 seconds as opposed to 20 but what is totally new? >> As far as I can tell, the only one that's different is the "Echo Platter" setting, which mimics a Binson Echorec, which I believe was an Italian made unit. This is what Pink Floyd used on their early records. I remember reading that it's the unit that was used on the bass on One Of These Days, but I've also seen video footage of the original lineup (yes, with Syd Barrett) in the studio, and it looks like both Syd and Rick Wright are also using Echorec units. Unless I miss my guess, this means that the Echorec is also what was used for the acid trip wipe out effects heard on various live versions of Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun and Saucerful Of Secrets (including those that are in the Live At Pompeii video). Now, how different the "Echo Platter" effect sounds in comparison to the Tube Echo or Tape Echo settings, I dunno. I have the DL-4, so I don't have that setting. If I can remember, next time I'm up at Sam Ash, I'll check and see if they have an Echo Pro set up, and ask if I can plug in. Then, I'll be able to give a better answer. And from the photos I saw in the Guitar Player review a few months back (which also mentioned the Echo Platter algorithm), it looks like you get a footswitch jack for doing doing the tempo tap thing like the far right hand button on the DL-4, and an input for plugging in an expression pedal, and then some MIDI jacks. ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris "What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?"-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com