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Re: Loop IV: Synchronization is awesome



i use the AllAccess and i have to say that using it in
conjunction with a dedicated edp pedal is the way to go.

the main reason is that the buttons on the AllAccess require
~4lbs to activate and this makes it difficult for me to activate
them precisely in time.  (they also make quite a bit of noise)

it is also nice to have the main edp functions immediately available.
(i am using the AllAccess to control several other devices as well)

there are other limitations to the AllAccess that are making me
consider using something else, although i can't seem to find
anything else that is decent...

there was a thread about a year ago about eventide researching
the perfect midi pedal.  

anybody know what happened with that?

p.s. i made my own edp pedal with info from the ld pages
        it's definitely worth checking out...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Si Butler" <jazzlists@burble.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:01 PM
Subject: RE: Loop IV: Synchronization is awesome


> 
> Thx for the response kim. I just ordered my loopIV upgrade today!
> 
> One last question though, I'd like to minimize the amount of pedals I
> have to carry around and have a Rocktron AllAccess midi pedal. Can I
> control the  EDP with the allAccess in an efficient manner or would
> people recommend I go with the real EDP pedal board. I know its possible
> to use the allAccess but my concern is that its not as convenient.
> 
> Thx again, -simon-
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@loopers-delight.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:48 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: RE: Loop IV: Synchronization is awesome
> 
> At 12:03 AM 6/25/2002, Si Butler wrote:
> >I'm interested in using the EDP in a rhythm section to layer funk
> >grooves. How easy is it to get everything locked on a nice tight 2 bar
> >segment?
> 
> I think it is pretty easy. It depends on your circumstances a bit, as it
> 
> would with any looper.
> 
> In LoopIV you have the ability to preset a Tempo before recording the
> loop 
> and then record a loop exactly to that BPM. There are some options to
> fine 
> tune this and retrigger the start point if you need to, for the EDP
> version 
> of turntable beat matching. This may be what you are looking for.
> 
> Also there are new triggering options that make it simple to retrigger a
> 
> loop. Sometimes in a band situation what you really need is a quick way
> to 
> retrigger your loop to line it up with the down beat again. It is a sort
> of 
> "manual sync" but I've often found it to be the most useful. We gave
> some 
> easy options for this in LoopIV.
> 
> If you are otherwise using midi clock, then you are totally set. the
> sync 
> functions of LoopIV are excellent in that case and you have many 
> possibilities to get a tight groove locked in. Things like ReAlign and 
> SyncRecord will do a lot for you there.
> 
> >Does the new software extend the quantization capabilities?
> 
> yes. You can quantize to the cycle point as before, or the new options
> of 
> quantizing to the 8th note or quantizing to the overall loop startpoint.
> 
> When it quantizes to 8th note, it really quantizes to a subdivision of
> the 
> loop based on the parameter called 8ths/cycle. This can be set to
> anything, 
> so this quantization could just as easily be quarter notes or 16ths or 
> sevens or whatever.
> 
> 
> >Do
> >I need to be lightning fast with the footpedal or does the loop IV s/w
> >help determine the correct length of the loop?
> 
> We've always tried to maintain both approaches. For those who want tight
> 
> rhythm there are many functions that allow the EDP to maintain very
> tight 
> grooves and take care of all the precision for you. Or you can be
> totally 
> free and do things whenever you want. Loop always gave you the choice, 
> LoopIV gives you even more.
> 
> For you, things like sync, quantizing, rounding, and triggering will 
> probably be what you want for a more groove oriented approach.
> 
> kim
> 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> Kim Flint                     | Looper's Delight
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> 
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