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> From: bruno kleinefeld > Anyhow this issue didn't show up to be very > stimulating for the rest > of the looping community... in effects looks > like technical issues > are much more interesting for the majority of > us. I think it's just that there has to be some element of the technical side, otherwise it can get very vague. Especially since what you can/can't do depends a lot on what looper you own. For example, I find Andre's explanations of what he's doing very interesting, but a lot of it is only possible with the EDP, so it can be confusing for those not familiar with specific EDP functions. On that note, one concept I'd like to explore is to take the idea of the "looper as an instrument" further by having a seperate person operating it. In my experience this leads to much more interesting possibilities. My friend wrote a looping program for his thesis, based on some of my ideas (he jokingly named it "Schnackertronics"), and what i found was that after the first few seconds of playing I forgot about the looping aspect of it, and just reacted to what came out of his laptop just like i would any other instrument. So the end result ends up being a lot more dynamic. Of course it helps that he built effects into the program with a high "mangleage" factor, so it quickly stops sounding like a guitar. And also he has 4 independent loops of different lengths, which by itself makes quite a difference. But since he can totally concentrate on the looping aspect of it, he has a lot more control, as opposed to me stepping on a bunch of pedals, while still trying to play something decent on my guitar. just a thought, Ernesto __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com