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As an example of what happens with a single EDP and stereo effects, you can visit: http://www.baymoon.com/~mark_hamburg The raw guitar has pretty obvious cross delays (DL8000R, if you care). The loop doesn't. I sometimes miss the effects in the loop, but it's one way to make the loop recede a bit relative to the new material. I also gain back a little bit of stereo for the loop when it hits the ambience effects (mostly AM8000R and an Ibanez SDR-1000+). So, now I've got two EDPs. I have some interest in just running them as a stereo pair, but that's also just driven by the realization that doubling the number of EDPs significantly increases the number of controls I need if they aren't acting as a stereo pair. As it is, I'm focusing on trying to work with independent loops which is easy if I push buttons but more confusion prone if done with my feet unless I get another EFC-7 and find space to put it. Mark P.S. Speaking of dual EDPs, my new EDP seems to have made my old EDP much more heat sensitive. Could I mitigate some of this by splitting them up in the rack so that the hot spots on one wouldn't be right near the hot spots on the other? on 7/1/02 8:41 AM, ArsOcarina@aol.com at ArsOcarina@aol.com wrote: > Hello there, > > In a message dated 6/30/02 11:29:04 PM, wedgehed@yahoo.com writes: > >> Maybe I'm just stuck in dumb-guitar-player mode, but >> here's a question I've been wanting to ask for years. >> What are you looping when you are stereo looping? >> I understand wanting 2 or more EDPs or a Repeater >> to do multitrack loops, but what are you guys/gals >> doing that requires the loop, as created, to be >> stereo? > > I'm just a dumb guitar player too so I guess I can answer > this with some authority. If I were ONLY using a guitar > and an amp in a mono setup a single EDP would suffice > somewhere either in a mono FX loop or simply patched > between the two somehow . . . I suppose. > > But, since many of my other effects contain all sorts > of stereo information, I also have a stereo amplification > set up too. And, since I've already gone to that > trouble, it seems sensible to me to try to preserve > this aspect in the loops as well. > > It might work in live situation to have a looper that sums > right and left inputs to mono (like my JamMan did when > I had one). In that old setup my effected "original" guitar > sound was still awash in stereo delays 'n' stuff and the > loop (when it came around) was summed mono. Often in > clubs the PA is blasted out in mono as well and nobody > hears all those neat panning FX, ping-pong delays and > stereo filters unless there right at the stage anyway. > > But, for myself, I really thought I was missing something by > not hearing all of the panning FX (from my Lexicon Vortex > especially) repeat in the loop -- it all seemed kind of "flat" > sounding as it looped around. I play with an EXTREMELY > processed sound and stereo is pretty essential to make > it work at all (IMOHO). > > Add to that that there is often a little Roland g-synth added > to my guitar sound that has it's own stereo characteristics > and its own FX chain (including another Vortex). To me only > using one EDP did not seem an option as long as I have 2 > working ears. > > In many ways I often fantasize that I had yet another pair. > I own enough power amps and have speaker cabs enough to > operate in quad . . . and there's a switch on my 12-channel > stereo mixer that will actually split it into two independent > 6-channel stereo mixers. I dunno, it could be kinda cool . . . > > Or maybe I'm just another crazy victim of G.A.S. (gear > acquisition syndrome). Heh, heh. heh. Sometimes, when > I listen to what Andre is doing with just a guitar, an amp > and a single EDP. I get a nasty jones in the other direction. > What he's doing is pretty doggone amazin'. I can hardly wait > till the Santa Cruz concert in 2 weeks at the Cayuga Vault. > It'll be the first time I seen him play in 5 or 6 years. > > Best, > > Ted > >