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mark, we exchanged thusly: >> did not really 'drop the ball'; i believe that it's quite a bit more >> complicated than that, what w/the involvement of parent companies and >all..... >Oh, believe me, I know that there were a lot of talented people at >Electrix, >and >they did a great job at creating the looper that I chose as my main >looper. > I >don't know if it was the parent company (IVL) or upper managment at >Electrix, >but >there was a constant flow of missinformation coming out of that company. right. am i mistaken, or..... doesn't (?didn't?) the parent-company-hierarchy there somehow flow thusly: electrix/ivl design/ivl/digitech/harman? and, repeater's development certainly required way more man-hours than they'd been prepared for..... it seemed that, well --- once the repeater design team management split (ie, damon langlois & darrell smith), that spelled the *middle* of the end..... anyway, maybe they'll sell the product to roland or some such who, btw, probably won't listen to us-all. >> >I remember a bunch >> >of us offering to go to local music shops all over the world to do >> >demos, and the offer was ignored. Why? When your customers are >> >offering free help for your marketing and you turn them down, you don't >> >deserve to be in business. >> well..... >> that's a bit harsh. >But is it harsh? yeah, it's harsh. there were/are good people, there, who spit blood, money and sleepless months on that thang. relatively speaking, there was some awesome *intention* in that project & buncha people..... it just went deeply awry, for reasons upon which we can only speculate. >This product meant a lot to me, as it did a lot of us. > All of >us, for that matter, even the ones that did not choose it. Another successful >looper on the market is good for all of us. No doubt. yes. total agreement on that. i felt strongly (and tried to express myself, in that regard, in this forum and others) that any dedicated loopist might wanna make a concerted effort to buy a repeater, not only to gain some new techno-musical capabilities, but also to invigorate the long-lost loop-device 'competition'. (silly me, eh? pragmatism obviated by altruism..... the self-serving kind, of course!) *-) indeed, i feel *exactly* the same way about the EDP. i kinda figure that if folks're truly *serious* about loop-tools, they'd see that --- in this incredibly small niche --- we (users) can't have real development of evolving tools w/o supporting those developers, *somehow*..... and money should oughta seem to do that. i watched lexicon cancel the pcm 42, put the jamman to bed w/o its supper and not implement looping-tech in the pcm80+ series. the edp? from oberheim to gibson-trace to nowhere and back to gibson, again, at least: hoping for the best, there! ye olde tc looper? gone. not interested. roland? not interested in development. there's the boomerang, which does have some features, though they're not particularly forward-looking, but: it works, it's fun, it does some tricks. there are a slew of old-school delay type loopers around, both old and new, but..... that doesn't interest *me*, too much. anyway, i'm just babbling pointlessly, now: a long month, it's been..... >I see the crap >that >happens in my company, and others that I've worked for. Upper managment >making >uninformed and arbitary desicions about things mostly based on their >hubris. >Rather than defer to someone who knows what's going on, they'll spit something >out and then let the engineering dept clean up the mess. My motto here >is, >"Don't puke on me then tell me I stink." The short story is Elextrix >didn't >get >the word out, for no good reason. certainly, the word was out..... but the product came so late that consumers doubted its stability, lost their excitable 'impulse'-to-buy, and: in fact: the final release was somewhat less substantial & capable than it might have been. >> >Still, the Repeater was an amazing beast. >> it's *still* fun and useful, here. > >Oh, don't get me wrong, I have no plans to ditch my Repeater. It's a >great >little box, and until it dies it will probably have a space in my rack. i dig ya; i'm very lucky, in that i have 2.5 of them: no shortage of looping devices, here! anyway, dude: what a world, eh? *-() best, dt / splattercell