Re: prerecorded loops

["Chris Roberts" <cpr@musetrap.com>]

hmmm... I guess I spend too much time going to CCRMA to hear 'piece for
violin and tape' and 'composition for tape and cello'... or, worse yet 
'tape
machine duet'... hehe... :)

but, seriously, we are talking about performance, so, I would tend to agree
if there is no 'performance' happening, then something is lacking... but,
if someone performs on a solo instrument, but, for whatever reason, doesn't
have a band, it seems that prerecorded backing music makes sense...

nine inch nails (until thier last tour) ran 7 tracks of prerecorded 
material
along with thier live instrument playing... this, of course, greatly 
impinges
on the 'improvability', but, imo, did not take away from the 
'performance'...

just a couple of cents from the few I have... :)

-cpr

>-- Original Message --
>From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" <ssrndpty@hotmail.com>
>To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>Subject: Re: prerecorded loops
>Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:02:01 -0700
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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>> Most of the time I'm turned off by prerecorded loops. A lot of
>performances
>> have lost points with me because the musicians put on a cd of the 
>musical
>> background and simply soloed over it. The same goes for pre-programmed
>drum
>> machines. To me it's a turnoff.
>
>Hear hear.
>
>I've seen more than one act get up on stage and do nothing but playback
>beats from their synths. Why not just play the cd?  (If it's more than
one
>person, why not just synch up cd players? Or all stand around a repeater,
>with one hand on your volume knob?)
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>It's also the biggest problem I have with my own current 'live' sound,
50%
>of my noise comes from live loops and electric instruments, but the other
>half is painfully sequenced. I've been trying very hard to get away from
>it,
>but current technology limit things :<
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>At this point, the only option seems to be to >add< a second sequencer,
to
>make up for the poor level of interactivity of the one I am using. This
will
>be putting me one laptop outside the '10 minute set up' limit, and those
>dj
>booths aren't getting any larger :/
>
>> Part of the challenge behind making a live
>> solo (or small group) performance work is to find ways to do everything
>you
>> need onstage, which includes cutting some elements that might not be
>> necessary.
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>I wouldn't call it a challenge myself, though I agree with the gist of
what
>you are saying. It's not the 'challenge' or 'not challenge' that people
came
>to see - they came to hear expression in aural form, so you need to 
>justify
>the trouble they took to come and see you instead of just playing your
cd.
>Otherwise, why bother? And no, guitar noodle over pre-recorded tracks is
>not
>'extra expression' :> (Not that I haven't been guilty of that myself in
the
>past)
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>> But then again, I come from a very improvisational background.
>>
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>No need for caveats - you're making sense.
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>bIz
>