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Hello Anthony the ECLIPSE is a very poweful unit...5 times the processing power of an H3000. It's the only 1 space rack unit on the market performing at 24bit/up to 96KHz sampling rate. It has 40 seconds delay memory, preamps, polyfuzzes, up to 8 voices delays/pitch shifters/comb taps/ring modulators/chorus/flangers. Reverbs are AWESOME !!! It also offer different reverbs like PLEXVERBS, using complex feedback routings between delay lines and detuners...to get a very particular grainy texture, quite popular among "experimenters" (Tibbetts/Brook/Fripp/Aarset/Gunn/Kaiser)! "Normal" reverbs are simply outstanding: I have just got back from Oslo where I spent a few days with Jan Garbarek. We have designed reverb algorithms (and more...) , trying to achieve the best possible sound Jan wants. Well...after many years of touring and recording with a 480 and G-Force, Pcm70, Pcm80...jan will start his world tour in the coming fal with his brand new ORVILLE...leaving all those boxes home. He was simply floored by our reverb algorithms. Eclipse verbs are better than a dsp4000 in quality, so no mistery it sounds better than an MPX1. You will also find dozens of other algorithms (reverse delays/reverse shifters/etc) for any kind of processing & mangling. Gtr distortions are very unique. Eventide has a Support Area/Forum on the web : EVENTIDE HELPS. Join it at:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventidehelps/ there you'll find lots of info/users interaction/MP3s/patches to download/tutorial documents and more also you can get Eclipse manuals here: http://www.eventide.com/eclipse/eclipse.htm Learnig curve for Eclipse is not an issue. best regards Italo De Angelis > I bougth an MPX1 when it first came out and used mostly slightly tweak ed > presets initially. Once I rolled up my sleeves and programmed a few o f my > own and then linked a midi controller to "patches" I was really impres sed. > Its like a vortex on steriods and then some and it sounds great! (I l oved > my vortex, but couldn't tolerate the rolloff above 12kHz). > > But I'm still coveting another high quality FX box. > > I'm a little surprised that the MPX1 reverbs don't hold up as well, bu t the > Eclipse is rough 3.5 times as much $$$ for what the MPX1 is going for these > days. > > I own no Eventide stuff. How steep is the learning curve to program i t? > ___________________________________________ Italo De Angelis Preset Design Engineer - Audio Division italo@eventide.com EVENTIDE AUDIO CUSTOMERS SUPPORT http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventidehelps/