RE: Attn: Matthias; Learning How to use the EDP?

["M. Steven Ginn" <sginn@airmail.net>]

Thanks Andre, this is a tremendous help.

M. Steven Ginn

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andre LaFosse [mailto:altruist@earthlink.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:14 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Attn: Matthias; Learning How to use the EDP?
> 
> 
> Jeez, I'm getting clumsy - that was a premature send.  Um, take two:
> 
> "M. Steven Ginn" wrote:
> 
> > Sean I am fully aware that the EDP could be configured 
> ad-infinitum, I 
> > was only wondering if there were some guidelines somewhere that I 
> > might use to set up my EDP initially.
> 
> http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP/2001.html
> http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP/tg.html
> 
> I specifically designed these pages to reflect different 
> applications for the Echoplex using certain combinations of 
> functions and parameter setttings.  Certain types of 
> combinations are more effective for different types of approaches.
> 
> Matthias also has an excellent EDP tutorial written:
> 
> http://loopers-delight.com/tips/Plhints.html
> 
> Lots of great technical and conceptual ideas, especially for 
> a newcomer looking for a way to get their feet wet.
> 
> > As for the pre/post or the before EDP after EDP effects question, I 
> > have seen the posts how some have used one or the other, but not 
> > necessarily a great amount as to why you would want it one 
> way or the other.
> 
> A few quick thoughts:
> 
> (Potential) advantages to effects before the EDP:
> 
> - Textural variety of sounds which occur within a single loop
> 
> - Get more milage out of your effects by using different 
> effects/settings for each different overdub
> 
> - Use effects to put each new element in a different 
> textural/frequency spot, so that the overall content of the 
> loop is less congested.
> 
> Reasons to effect after the EDP:
> 
> - Turn what would be a static EDP loop into an evolving 
> texture by tweaking it with processing
> 
> - Turn the mono EDP into a stereo signal via pitch 
> modulation, delay, reverb, etc.
> 
> - Effects like reverb, delay, etc. can decay longer than the 
> length of the loop
> 
> - You're not stuck with the effect you used when you recorded 
> it into the EDP
> 
> Vis a vis these ideas, putting mono effects (stomp boxes and 
> such) before the EDP, and stereo effects after the box, is a 
> nice approach...
> 
> And after trying this, then you can read about why I stopped 
> using effects altogether:
> 
http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP/muso.html#effects

Anyway, hope that helps for starters.  

--Andre LaFosse
http://www.altruistmusic.com