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After a Grobschnitt concert in 1984 I needed a 12 string solid body, too. Its fun for dirty solos! I waited long and paid a lot and used it for a year or two and later nobody wanted to buy it and I stored it and forgot about it. Recently someone mentioned he would like to have one and I did not know where mine was. Now I found it again and dont remember who wanted it... Ovations Deacon has a nice ergonomical form similar to Klein and a nice flat neck. Mine is all original sunburst with 2-3 scratches, simplified electronics (can be recuperated) and in neck position a Les Paul pickup instead of the thin sounding original (which still comes along, too). -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org