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make sure you don't use these for power cables. i got a nasty shock at a gig once when a loose one slid down as i plugged in... ----- Original Message ----- From: <PJBMHB@aol.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:39 AM Subject: Re: Subject: THE RACK. Keeping to together... > pipe cleaners are my cable ties of choice. very economical and you often >have > a choice of designer colors. =-) PJ >