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Jon wrote: . I got the idea for "ambigous (sic) rhythmical content" from Matthias. I had a discussion with him about playing with a DJ. He used the term "ambigous harmonic content" as a way to fit his guitar sounds with any unexpected harmonic content on a DJ's record. I decided that I needed to try out the same thing with rhythm. Along these lines, I have really enjoyed making either rubato/ambient or complex odd time rhythmic loops on my DL4 and then playing a groove against them that is in a more straight time: recording both on the repeater and thereby, randomly 'grabbing' phrasing from the first loop that was not intended conciously for the first loop. This is a great way to create insteresting ambient pads that , nevertheless, contextualize as 'grooves' once the final 4/4 rhthym (or any rhthym, for that matter) is imposed on it. I have loved doing this with just two DL-4s until I got the Repeater. Now I can use this method and then play the damn thing as a melody with my new WX-5 wind controller...........I love life..........tee hee. yours, Rick