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Hi, Nick! I am in a similar situation as you only a little farther along the guitar synth road. I recently made the break from largely and acoustic multi-style player into the world of guitar and midi synth. I began by buying a Godin ACS-nylon string synth access guitar. I then bouht a VG-88 to accomplish the widest possible palette of guitar sounds possible with one unit. I also wanted to be able to use various tunings without having to actually retune the guitar. I found that the tunings had a sound that wasn't acceptable to me but the various other sounds provided made the unit worth it. Like you I was debating the choice between the Axon and GR-33 until I found someone selling an American Fender Strat with GK-2A pickup and GR-33 for a great price. The Strat GK-2A combo made the tuning options on the VG-88 sound much better as well as many of the other sounds. The Godin tracks the GR-33 better but some of the patches still sound better with the Strat. I should qualify that I haven't sat down to tweak the setup on the GR-33 both for the Strat and the Godin. I am right now beginning to hook up my Yamaha S-80 to see how the GR-33 works at controlling it. I still have a long way to go to really be able to comment thoroughly about the system but it seems as if it is going to be suitable for my needs. As far as the onboard sounds of the GR-33 the tracking seems to be fast enough. Once I work with the S-80 I'll let you know how it tracks. It seems quite evident to me that this is the future of guitar. There will always be a place for straight acoustic but this setup expands my horizons immeasurably. Have fun! MR -----Original Message----- From: Nick Schillace [mailto:nickschillace@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 11:36 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Gr-33/VG8 I am sure this has come up . . . I have decided to allocate the funds I've been saving for an EDP for a guitar synth. I have been getting more opportunities for commercial sound design and I thought it was time to try out a synth. I am hoping I can get it to control my software synths (mainly reaktor) but I was wondering if anyone had advice on which Roland unit was the best for tweaking and manipulating sounds within the unit. It is my understanding that the VG-8 is primarily a modeler. I am very new to synths, and don't really know what they offer. Maybe there is a different manufacturer I should look into? Any takers? Nick Schillace In Door Park _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com