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>>Well, if you're a bit of a non-comformist, and want maximum control with non-existent latency, check out www.starrlabs.com... on this list, both I and Gary Lehmann have ztars. Cool stuff. Kevin =========================================================================== And if you have a hefty budget...but they look awfully amazing, and I'll bet deliver the goods, in terms of rivalling a midi keyboard for precision control. I find the main strength of my midi axes GK2/Strat and Godin ACS to be the fact they are nice sounding and playable guitars on their own (esp the ACS), with 3 way switch going from dry/mix/synth only. The 'organic' sound and feel of the strings, along with synths/VG8 really allows for a vast tonal palette. I find the latency on the GR33 to be 'workable'--I get used to playing a little ahead and/or programming patches with a long enough attack to 'work around' the wee bit of latency... That said, for the Toyata Tercel crowd:-: is the current rev of the Axon that much better than the GR series latency-wise? I had one of the first Axon units and found it to be inscrutable, and not that much better than the GR30, latency-wise. NG