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Hi all, I've been sucked out from the internet by the new studio over the past couple of days... but thought that I'd post this to let you know of a few changes in my beliefs and ideas when it comes to looping. It was only a week or two ago when I told you about my 'rule' about not changing loops once they are recorded.... Well, I thought to myself...'Why?'.... and to be quite honest, I could not come up with an answer other than just 'Because'.... Maybe its because I have been limited with using a DL4 for so long. The unit that I used created my rules. So, at the music shop yesterday, I purchased an Edirol UA-5 (for the sound - amazing quality), Behringer Ultrapatch pro patch-bay ($75 new - 48 point 4/Way patch bay) and a Midiman 25 key midi keyboard, and plugged everything in to the Repeater. I've re-routed everything through the patchbay so that I can plug in floor effects and also rewire the studio quickly from the front without pulling everything apart. Yesterday, I was changing the pitch of the loops with the keyboard, and also using the computer as a sampler, introducing choir, brass and percussion to my loops. Although I dont know my VF1 effects unit that well, I was inserting delays/flanger etc. into the effects chain of the repeater, and altering recorded loops. Then, for the first time, I was bouncing samples from the Repeater straight into Live!, and mucking around with them in there whilst being able to record new loops on the Repeater.... .... In other words, in one afternoon, I have broken all my rules. It was great. I have now officially removed my head from my backside and lifted the veil of self-imposed limitations. Its great! :) ....rules are meant to be broken I suppose.... -- Stuart Wyatt - Solo String Project http://www.solostring.com stuart@solostring.com