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of course, one thing that may be missed here is that fact that language is a living, growing organism, not a museum piece. (unless it's latin or other languages that have insisted on purity and fallen into disuse.) for one thing, "effect," as being discussed here, does not show up in my shorter oxford dictionary. the closest one gets is the entry for lightning used is stage plays. we, the musical community, have appropriated a word for our own nefarious uses. what we really mean by "effect" is not in the dictionary (at least mine). what we really have is a sound or timbral modifier (as dr. z pointed out). we, as most people do, appropriate and modify language as we go along - - the beauty and curse of language. stig (who sees car guys using words like "refreshening," etc., all day long) <font size="1">Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you.