| Yes we (Second Sufis) do the live looping. We use both 
digital delay looping and midi looping, more for an "overdub effect" than for a 
standard looping sound. The equipment must be top notch to stay in synch 
(look out for Alesis equipment, they have the worst clocks around). We use TC 
Electronin equipment mostly for looking - TC D2. TC equipment has very accurate 
clocks. Uses to use TC 2290, but it's internal timing begings to wander 
when they get old (never used its fast trigger option, not appropriate for what 
we do). We have managed to play live material where the clocks stay aligned with 
the MIDI sequencer (GHZ processor) for up to an hour without any noticeable 
offset. Mike     ----- Original Message -----  
  
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:24 
  AM Subject: Re: loops w/ live groups 
 
  I don't disagree, Homeboy!  
  I've wanted for some time to be able to add guitar loopage as background to 
  regular "pop" music.  Perhaps it would at least partially legitimize it, 
  hm?   I find the most difficult bits are 
  still with respect to timing of the loop in relation to the beat/etc.; and I 
  think of the ideal situation for it as being with someone else controlling the 
  length and placement, and my just working within the construct.  It might 
  make the material meld better with what it's providing background for, 
  yes? 
    ----- Original Message -----  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 19:02 
    PM Subject: loops w/ live groups 
 Although I have the deepest respect for Fripp and his approach to 
    looping, I suppose what really interests me is the use of loops with a live 
    band--you know, not just soundscapes and drones, but also 
    more rhythmical loops.  However, getting these to sync up to a 
    drummer (or vice versa) can be a bit of a challenge, at least to a 
    relatively new "loopist".  I just figured I'd throw this question out 
    there and hopefully get some help: any tips on syncing loops up with a real 
    drummer (the first track off of the Bruford Levin Upper Extremities cd is a 
    great example)?  Right now I'm using a Jamman (thanks Mark!), so the 
    possibility of taking advantage of MIDI could work, if it supplied a click 
    track for my drummer...   Sorry if this distracts some of you from the loop as fx vs loop as 
    instrument debate 8^)   jonathan   
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