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I was gonna take this page down, but if anyone is interested, check out http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/11-3.htm my drummer gets a dry headphone feed from my jamman (pre- filter factory and vortex). #4 is a good example of him working with a loop. and this piece was the birth of the framework of a ditty called "Lapsed Crafty" from my forthcoming disc. shameless plug, that, eh? m Mark Christensen http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ Visit Big Heavy World at http://www.bigheavyworld.com, Vermont's music 24/7. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------