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that's pretty strange. Do you have the ControlSource parameter set to Notes or Controllers? If it is "off" then program change messages are not received either. otherwise I don't know why it wouldn't work. can you connect your controller to something like MidiOx and email me a text file of the midi program change commands it is sending? kim At 04:13 AM 7/31/2002, Steve Sandberg wrote: >hmm, well I guess you probably are also sending the program change >commands >on the same midi channel the echoplex is set to, and the midi out of your >controller is connected to the midi in of the edp. never hurts to check >though. >Yes to both -- > >are you sure your midi controller is really sending program change >messages >and not something else? (does it work controlling other devices?) >Yes, it works controlling other devices. > >if you have presets saved, when you send program change 1 you see "P 1" on >the display, program change 2 is "P 2" etc. Does that happen? >This happens when I change parameter sets from the front panel, but >nothing happens when I try to do it through MIDI. ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com