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Mark, Thanks for the reply! My understanding is that there are some dummy load boxes that reproduce the variable impedence (based on frequency) that a speaker cab usually exhibits. This is exactly what I'm hoping to get some advice/experience on - which load boxes have people used and gotten satisfactory results? I'm not depending on the JC-120 or it's speakers to provide this piece of the equation. The JC-120s will simply amplify the final guitar signal (and guitar synth signal) after they have come out of the dummy-loaded Rivera (both preamp and power amp stages), gone through the EDP's, a Vortex, and some modulation effects (chorus, etc). Again, my understanding is that a "good" load box can give me a reasonably good tone out of the Rivera, at line levels, which I can then pipe through my rack. I'm not referring to an attenuator with a speaker sim here. See http://www.soundsmith.com/fake.htm and the graph at the bottom of the page, which shows how some load boxes can reproduce the behavior you are talking about. I used to have a PowerBrake, but didn't like the tone it caused at the dummy load setting. The graph seems to suggest why. It also suggests that the THD Hotplate and the PowerSoak cause ugly sounds for the same reason - no variable impendance. The "Silent Speaker" shown in the graph seems like it would be wondermous... but I can't find current info on one anywhere. I remain hopeful that someone on the list can give me some useful advice! Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: Re: Dummy Loads, Line Outs, and thangs like that > The problem with what you're proposing is that part of what makes a tube amp > "warm" is the interaction with the load (speaker) and the tube amplifier > stage. The thing about a speaker is it's impedance rating is not fixed. It > actually changes based on the frequency it's trying to reproduce and >other > factors. Anyway, the interplay between how the speaker effects the amp >is what > it's all about. OK, well what some of it's about. Transistors do not behave > in this way. > > Mark Sottilaro > > Doug Cox wrote: > > > Yes, I know. However, if you'll notice the proposed signal path I > > mentioned, it ends with two JC-120s, guitar amps with 12" speakers. >