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Hey Gary, thanks a million for your info! Your explaination of the extra Midi commands were really well detailed, and I imagined immediately the possibilities of these commands. There are many people on this list who may not understand the power of the baby brother DL4. About 90% of my project utilises just one DL4 unit - nothing else. Its a very organic box, and if you play on your own, or perform with good live performers who can sync to you, you can perform wonders with this little toy. Although I have yet to try an EDP, from my experiences with other looping tools, the DL4 is probably the only unit that I dont have to think about when I play... I use it automatically in the same subconcious way that I use the violin. So.... it now exists in a stereo rack form with midi sync for the delays, and program changes to be able to utilise the many different sounds using a footswitch/controller. It allows now for 60s sample time.... it has balanced outputs.... and its $300 (I paid $330 for the DL4 when it first came out). Dammit. I'm getting one :) Just one question... is the loop sampler stereo? Or does it just have stereo bypass/mono record like the DL4? Anyone know? -- Stuart Wyatt - Solo String Project http://www.solostring.com stuart@solostring.com