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Yeah, I've got a spare too, but it's still in the box. I was also thinking of doing the 8-track thing as well. Lemme' know if you get there first, K? <smile> -Actually, just had an idea. in the case that the midi clock is too flakey from one repeater to another, you could simply synch to a drum machine or whatever, and then use the midi through on the first repeater into the second. I'd think they should synch just fine. Smiles, CQ At 03:00 PM 8/25/02 -0400, you wrote: >You make me *so* glad I just bought a backup Repeater, Mark :) And if >I'm able to get them to sync well enough to have an 8-track looper, I'll >be sure to let y'all know!! Won't get a chance to try for a while >though, since I just loaned "looper jr" to a friend :) > >Elby > > >> Subject: Why I love the Repeater (was;Re: Repeater spotted for sale) >> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:07:56 -0700 >> From: Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Jon Wagner and I had this talk yesterday. After an amazing EDP day, >> we >> still looked at each other and said, "God, the Repeater is amazing. >> What will happen if ours were to break!? THE HORROR!" >> >> So where do I start? First synching. >> >> While the Repeater's output clock is dubious, a lot of devices don't >> seem to have an issue with it, including the EDP. Both Jon Wagner and >> I >> have done this successfully. But that's not the Repeater's strong >> suit. >> It's how it synchs to other devices. With the EDP you can imagine >> your >> loops are made of fine spun glass fiber. You can splice more or take >> chunks away, but try to stretch it and BLAM. Totally rigid in this >> respect. Now the Repeater's loops are like Silly Putty. (Who here >> has >> not experienced the joy that is pressing Silly Putty on to the Sunday >> comix to make Snoopy look like an Robert Crumb nightmare?!) Slow >> down >> your sequence (within reason, but pretty far) or speed it up, and the >> Repeater behaves like an obedient puppy. It might take a few moments >> for it to catch up with you, but it will stay by your side. Your >> pitch? Stays the same. Artifacts? Some, but totally usable and >> damn >> good compared to a lot of other devices that try to do this in real >> time. I never realized how I took this for granted until I put the >> EDP >> in my rig. If I've got an EDP loop going, I'd better not touch that >> BPM >> slider on my Roland MC-307 unless I'm preparing to get weird with the >> tempo. I must admit, not having Loop4 does prevent me from going >> back >> to my original tempo and doing a realign command. This does open up >> possibilities for sure. >> >> So, what else? You can time stretch and compress and pitch shift in >> a >> very fluid way. The inverse of the above is the pitch thing. The >> EDPs >> half speed and double speed pales in comparison. Sorry kids. The >> Repeater will run rings around any other looping device in this >> arena. >> Name the interval and you're there. Play your loops with a MIDI >> keyboard. I think you get an octave up and two down. Your tempo? >> Right on. Oh LOOK AT ME! I'm now playing my loop backwards at 80% >> of >> it's original tempo up a fifth. WEEEEEEE! >> >> And who can forget STEREO. Sure, the Repeater and EDP now cost about >> the same but I don't care who you are, if you plan to record music it >> will be played back on a stereo system. The Repeater is STEREO. >> Sure >> you can post process your loops with a stereo effect, but trust me, >> it >> isn't the same. Also, I'm not just looping guitar, I've got 1028 >> juicy >> stereo sounds that come from my synth, as well as the output of the >> AirFX and AirSynth. To bump those down to mono would be a damn >> shame. >> Believe me, it's one of the main reasons I haven't really hit the EDP >> that hard since I got it. To me this is VERY important and I don't >> have >> the cash for another one. >> >> While were on it, forget stereo, the Repeater is a multitrack device >> that can deal with 4 tracks, how ever you'd like to deal with them. >> Two >> stereo pairs, one stereo pair and two mono, whatever. You can take >> each >> track and "slip" it in relationship with the others, while all the >> time >> still maintaining the tempo! Really useful. >> >> Stereo Effects loop. YUM. To do what I do with the Repeater, I'd >> not >> only need another EDP, but some signal routing device like a mixer >> with >> stereo aux sends or a Switchblade router. Switchblades START at >> $750! >> That means I've spent $2050! YIPE! If you don't care about an >> effects >> loop, you can route each track to it's own output for quad looping >> madness. >> >> The 16 meg it comes with is nothing. OK for my grandmom's looper. >> Get >> an $80 smartmedia card and you've now got 128 meg! 8 minute loop >> length >> limit! Longest out there of any hardware looper. The end. >> >> And you still get a lot of the functionality of the EDP with things >> like >> Loop multiply, different overdub modes, undo, ect. You don't get the >> yummy insert modes though. This ability to splice bits onto your >> loop >> is where the Repeater lacks. I never knew I needed these until >> yesterday though! I'm still not sure I can even use them much, as >> they'd screw up the MIDI synch that's so much a part of my deal. >> >> Last, but not least, for those DJs out there that need to take bits >> of >> what they're mixing and loop it, the Repeater's Beat Detect is really >> good. For fun, I'll put it in beat detect mode and just play into >> it, >> changing my tempo making the Repeater CRAZY trying to find me. Oh, >> it's >> get's weird quick. All the time, I can be in Record too. >> >> OK, I'm sure there's more, but I'm tired of typing. >> >> Mark Sottilaro >> > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~thefates Please visit The Guitar Cafe. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the-guitar-cafe