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At 12:45 AM -0800 8/31/02, Stan Card wrote: >doncha just hate it when a word becomes part of a terminology or way of >doing thangs and then someone goes and uses it for something totally >different? Except in this case an "effects loop" has been standard terminology for decades. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com