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Yeah- but that's because you just use those headphones b/c they have the letters "dt" in their name. ;) Seriously tho- have you tried compensating by identifying what you don't like about the final mix and then keeping that in mind when mixing on the phones? Like mixing on those awful Yamaha N19s or whatever they are- once you hear the bass is just right you know you have gone too far and back it off- a lot of guys use them because they really know them as they have used them for many decades and as you know back when they were young they didn't have fancy headphones with their initials on them to mix on- they had to duct tape speakers to their heads which made their eardrums rupture in excruciating pain and they LIKED it! And so on... Cliff www.om-studios.com -----Original Message----- From: Hedewa7@aol.com [mailto:Hedewa7@aol.com] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:22 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: headphones om@om-studios.com writes: >but I agree i would never use >headphones as a sole monitoring source- me, niether, but..... my oldest son uses beyer headphones as his primary monitors, and his mixes *always* sound waaaay better than mine..... best, dt / splattercell