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At 1:49 PM -0700 9/17/02, Greg House wrote: >This won't work on all channel inserts, it depends on whether the >mixer return It's easy to make an "channel insert input" cable >though, use a TS plug on one end and a TRS on the other end, with >only the return & ground wired. Similarly you can make a "direct output" cable by wiring just the ring and sleeve. I made a bunch of these with a male RS and a female TS connector, so I'm not limited by cable length. They're useful for all sorts of interesting kludges. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com