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At 2:23 PM -0700 9/17/02, Greg House wrote: >You also have to wire tip to ring within the TRS connector for the >insert, or >you'll mute the channel when you insert it. Not always what you want. Thanks. I forgot to mention that. In one set of those I actually removed the tips! -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com