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oh and one more...this one is worth it -- very very cool pedal: Dunlop TS-1 Tremolo Stereo Pan http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/search/detail/base_pid/151012/sourceid=0 0397200445392687807 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> To: <gary@friendlyspider.com>; <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Vibrato pedal for a cello.. > If the idea is to do something unorthodox with a cello -- I cheer "Yeah! A > wonderful thing!" > > Try some of these on: > > Perhaps something that would combine perfectly with your cello concept -- > Z. Vex Tremolo Probe - controllable "a la theremin" so your body >proximity > controls the effect. Look! No wires! > A nice visual thing too. > http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/zvextremprobe.html > > Very flexible, but no midi/ > http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/mar00/articles/line6.htm > > "The Wiggler" - and guitar-y > Near the bottom of this page -- > http://www.gtrheaven.com/new_pedals.asp?ven=310&m=none > > And one more... > http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/PEThrob.html > > > I hope you get wacky with it. > > David > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Stahl" <alex@pixar.com> > To: <gary@friendlyspider.com>; <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:35 PM > Subject: Re: Vibrato pedal for a cello.. > > > > With all due respect, I'd suggest practicing wiggling your wrist. > > > > I don't say this from any sort of acoustic chastity, at all. In fact, > > some of my best friends are bowed strings played through pitch > > shifters. I built an electric 'cello in 1979 and still play the > > electric contrabass I made in 1977, through every Harmonizer(tm)-like > > device I can lay my clumsy hands on. I've programmed triggerable, > > randomized envelopes for depth and rate, and used weird MIDI pedals > > that output their rate of change as well as their x-y position to > > control the best Eventide algorithms. > > > > I love the variety of textures and timbres that can be discovered > > down this instrumentation avenue, but I have never achieved a > > "realistic" vibrato effect. Maybe I'm a little picky, having spent a > > few years as sound guy for the Kronos Quartet, but for what it's > > worth, my advice is use the effects for what they are, not for what > > they might be like. > > > > -Alex S. > > > > > > At 9:27 AM -0500 9/17/02, Gary Phillips wrote: > > >Hey gang.... > > >I need a vibrato pedal, possibly with > > >external control, for a unique purpose. > > >I'm a guitarist, but I recently purchased > > >an electric cello. It is going to be a while > > >before I learn decent vibrato technique > > >and I've had this idea that could get me > > >utilizing the cello in recording a lot sooner. > > > > > >I want to run the cello's output to a vibrato > > >pedal that I can control with a small lever > > >attached to the bow. I don't know whether > > >I can get away with controlling only speed > > >or whether I'd need to control depth as well. > > >But I was wondering if there might be a pedal > > >out there that could do the job. I could even > > >hack into the rate knob of the pedal and use > > >a small potentiometer rigged to a lever on > > >the bow.... or just use the pot/lever as the > > >pedal for a MIDI controller. Any ideas > > >would be appreciated. I am looking for a > > >pedal that will give me the most realistic > > >vibrato effect. > > >-- > > >gary > > >@friendlyspider.com > > > > > >PS: Ever heard of Hans Reichel ? > > >Luthier, musician, animator.... > > >This guy is way cool: > > >http://www.daxo.de/ > > >http://www.yuxo.de/ > > > > >