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I will modestly mention that for one piece at the Y2K2 Loop Festival in Santa Cruz, I played a long "water music" loop. It was a long mix of thunder samples and rain playing on my Boss RC-20, as I played and looped on a Repeater. I'm not at all sure the house mix included it ;-( but it sounded really cool to me with frame drums and overdubbed didjeridu chords. Yours in rhythm, Steven __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com