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Mattias, In a message dated 10/14/02 4:13:10 PM, matthias@grob.org writes: >I am a bit overwhelmed by all you are contributing. Much of it is on >the negative side: Its not... Dont define, it may exclude... [snip] >More and more I come to the conclusion that "artform" is apropriate. Pay no attention to us Matthias. It's all just semantics and the particular, fussy differences of opinion being expressed here about "ART FORM" or "NOT AN ART FORM" may just boil down to a language difference anyway. I may not particularly define looping is an "ART FORM" in my own particular way of thinking, but heck, I don't really see any harm in anybody else talking about it as such. Clearly, we can all certainly say that there is an "ART" to looping in some sense or another and no one will argue with you if you put it in those terms. I think we've been splitting hairs and getting all "philosophical" on you. If you believe in it, go ahead and do what you want. It isn't going to harm anybody, or the "cause" of looping for that matter if you do. It may even help. Who knows. You know what they say about "too many cooks" don't you. Best, Ted Killian