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Bruce MANY changes have been brought to Eclipse since the days you tried it, when it came out. Today, after 4 OS releases, the machine is VERY stable; bugs have been killed without mercy... We have added new algorithms and lots of new presets. As far as looping: Eclipse is a dual engine FX processor; each engine has 20 sec delay that can be used for delay looping algorithms (mono or stereo), reverse delay looping (mono or stereo). We will probably add our new PitchTime to the arsenal: it allows multivoice delay/pitch shifter (max 16sec) whose content can be read at variable speeds (from 1% to 300% of its duration)without or with pitch shifting, in real time. These algorithms can be obviously combined with fx processing tasks, pre or post loop. Italo > Thanks, Italo. I'm familiar with the Eclipse manual and the general i nfo > you mention: I tried an Eclipse (actually 2 of them) for nearly 2 mon ths > when they first came out, and returned it because it didn't do enough of the > things I wanted and I kept finding bugs. I was wanting to know what > specific new features had been built into the new operating system rel ating > to looping, reverb etc... ..and that doesn't seem to be on the website . > > > > Which of the looping features you list will be in the Eclipse? > > > > The Eclipse has some of the looping features of Orville...not all: 4 0 > > sec delay, probably TimePitch. reverse delays/looping. > > No samplers. > > No 4 minute,20 sec memory. > > No open platform. > > > > You could get deeper info by getting the manuals here: > > www.eventide.com > > > > > > Will you also be able to "freeze" reverbs (as on the pcm81)? > > > > Done that! > > It's just an old delay trick...not reverb. > > > ___________________________________________ Italo De Angelis Preset Design Engineer - Audio Division italo@eventide.com EVENTIDE AUDIO CUSTOMERS SUPPORT http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventidehelps/