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> Then I became curious about playing looping and realized I can pretty > easily repeat something a few times, but then automatically a > variation drops in. Why is that? you mean a variation in the pattern, which doesn't interupt it, or you mean moving on to something new? Listening to Turkish clarinet music, the "clarinet guy" (Mustapha Kandirale) is blowing over a simple repeating pattern. or so it seems when I listen in to the individual percussion lines, none of them is actually constant. always subtle variations. Somehow I'd really like to have that sort of effect with a looper, little variations in the rhythm. andy butler