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oh c'mon- smashmouth? elton john? and really- how beautiful is the lead singer of Aerosmith. Thus speaks Miko: beauty, as mu7ch as we desire to make it a physical quality, is an ephemerial one. I truly believe that it belongs to the world of the spirit- in the realm of faith in oneself which quite appropriately coincides with the success of musicians: the cioncidence of success with beauty happens not because beauty precedes it, but because the Self we observe rising from its own ashes is a Self that has found its beauty and is now able to express it. Inherently you deny all those other attributes of success- talent, style, focus, determination, strategy, integrity, charm, and perseverence- to name a few- when you make this comment about physical attractiveness. I would argue that beauty has nothing to do with it- that many well examined celebrities are the most bizarre looking people you've ever seen- when you dive into the dead space of their life-disconnected body, as it exists beyond their life-validating presence. [hear my new age win chimes tinkle in a gentle wind...] Just my opinion. :) -----Original Message----- From: Clayton Gary Lehmann [mailto:relayonemanband@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:29 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Is anybody Listening? MIKO wants to know Why is everyone so down on the public? i've been psychically tortured by the uncosnciously driven sadism of the public and yet I still love people and credit the modern audience for music with a respectable base level of intelligence.... There's no proving it anyway so wy must we be harsh on those from whom we desperately, as artists, when we admit it, seek validation? And my reply-- I don't think anyone pays attentions to 95% of the stuff we (musicians) do unless we are physically attractive--at that point they start watching and they are better able to tune in-- I will exclude from my generalization anyone who PLAYS music as they have a leg up on the process. But there is so much music everywhere, and I don't think most folks "tune in". And then there is "taste", so that will weed out others. I always try to play for others (did it for money for so many years), but I know that the finest musical achievement is produced without regard for the "public". Make it good and then let someone sell it--every John and Paul needs a Brian--but don't count on the great unwashed to validate your point of view. I don't think they are paying that much attention! Gary