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Since I've been a LD subscriber for a very long time, and usually keep my posts to the bare minimum, I feel comfortable speaking on this issue. I note with dismay the result of yesterday's discussion on Mikos "exuberant" posting, 34 new unread mails in my deleted messages box. Yep, I finally set up a filter to get rid of Miko's annoying and much too frequent postings about a week ago. So after getting the proverbial "wake-up" call from LD that he should consider toning down his posts, Miko's response is to just keep up the barrage. LD is usually a wonderful list. Some of you post more than others, and you all have different strengths. I can count on Richard Zvonar to enlighten me, Mark Sottilaro to amuse me, and Rick Walker to inspire me. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, with people like Matthias, Kim, Andre, Mark Hamburg, etc... But, like most internet discussion groups, the signal to noise ratio has been increasing alarmingly. I'd personally like to see our focus stay a little sharper. Most of the "off-target" folks don't stay long, but Miko's a different problem. I've already "voted" with my email filter. On a looping note, Dennis Leas should be releasing his LCK looping tools for Kyma soon. As soon as he makes this public, I'd urge anyone with an interest in looping tools and their possible configurations to check it out, as it's fascinating stuff. Best- Mark