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I don't have any looping gear(I barely have $ for food right now), unless you count that I am using ambiloop which is great(i need a different sound card on the pC, a vst version or a mac version though, but that is NOT a complaint for what's been given generously by it's creators) I started looping with homemade cassette loops as a kid and later with an echoplex. Inspired by Looppools performaces which only cemented a congealing feeling that i was made to work in loop and segments as opposed to all at once songwiriting, just that I'm made that way and it's okay. With that said if my contribution or prescence here is demeaned the the non-prescence of the gear i can't afford yet, the experience and work i haven't done yet, or my lack of popularity here then kick me off too and I could give half a crap if that's what this list is about. When people were going around beating people for being middle eastern you guys were solid. I left a long time list because of the small minded crap that started taking over there and built up a world of respect for you all in that time. There are lots of times I'm not into a whole vein of discussion and i don't find anyone's posts more or less valuable than anyone elses. I thought this was a free and safe environment, WTF is up with attacking this guy? To speak completely honestly, it makes me sick to see a bunch of grown men gush and get all stupid everytime a woman makes and entrance into their world. I have no one and nothing in my world, but i would never act this way to try to change that. And what this "group psychology" crap of "hey man, I have more security here than you and I'm going to broker than and directly tell you to leave like a total DICK" smack of to me is group psychology showoffy ego bullshit in response to the prescence of newfound woman on the list. Profound posts, flagrant use of unnecesarily large words and complex logic, and now this. I love this list, but like my country when it's sucking, i have to say "it's sucking right now" out of duty to the list and what's true and or right as i percieve it or else I'm not really loyal to anything and I'm to blame for standing by in complacency while people are hurt.. We had a subject line involving "boring". Well what we've moved onto is rude and immature and inhuman, making boring look like a lofty goal. Everyone here is capable of doing and behaving much better: go for a jog, write down your feelings, drop down in an isolation tank, make some music for god's sake, but please let's not be abnoxious to each other? Like i said I've skipped over some posts because of non-interest or lately disgust so if i missed something please let me know and sorry in advance if i did, did i? But if all this gentleman is accused of is making more posts than someone else and not being "loopy" enough, then this if frickin stupid and you can kick me off too if that's how it's going to be. If the conscious or unconscious goal was to impress someone, i hope for that target's sake it didn't work, which would be a loop, not that i want to have to worry if some guy is going to call me OT if I don't mention a loop. Sincerely, Glenn Javaheri looping fan/amateur looper/crappy musician/ Just to cleanse my soul of any fear or posting something "OT" i got turned onto the coolest band I've heard in years today, "Swan Dive" http://members.aol.com/swandive33/music/music.htm if you're interested on 11/11/02 4:13 PM, Eric Williamson at erwill@suitandtieguy.com wrote: > Quoting S V G <vsyevolod@yahoo.com>: >> Please leave this list. > > i don't read what i'm not interested in. > > however, > > asking someone to leave the looper's delight list is just plain rude. > > if you don't like his words, don't read them. it's kim's list and if kim > hasn't > suspended him yet, i don't think it's anyone's business. > > Eric Williamson > www.suitandtieguy.com >