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What isn't real? That's my question. Even a tab of acid creates some real effect... even if only for the user. Is a hallucination any less real than a video or film image? Do you think that's air your breathing? Hmmm? Which brings me to visuals. I hate to say it, but I must admit there's little worse than watching someone on stage twiddle knobs. I left an electronic music festival when a guy got up and started futzing around with a laptop. The techno music that was coming from the PA could have been from a CD for all I knew, or cared. Inversely, I seem to enjoy some forms of music live (reggae, blues) while not liking them much on CD. Not sure why. I know I'm one of those people that just don't put on a very good performance. So I usually let a video do that work for me. Nice little illusion video is, and projectors are getting nicer and cheaper. Plus, you can do a lot of neat MIDI controlled video tricks these days. Mark Sottilaro jim palmer wrote: > > > > > > so why don't you just buy the video? > > > > I like improvisation, and I like something real. > >