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To add my $0.02 (USD)... A single device that fits your needs will be expensive or take some effort. Three candidates come to my mind: 1) computer with custom MAX/MSP program 2) Eventide Orville 3) Symbolic Sound Kyma But practically speaking, if you have an RC-20 on the way, I'd play with it first, then re-evaluate your equipment needs. If you've never looped before, I'd get some experience with a "basic" looper like the RC-20. You will probably be amazed at how much fun the RC-20 will be. And you will have a *much* better idea of how looping works for you. Plus, how you can work looping into your performance. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mail.worldserver.com