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My friend and I arrived at a similar idea when working on a concept based composition. It is 30 min- 3 min each on the diff branches of the Quaballic (sp) tree of life symbol. Originally we planned on it being 100% improv each time- however as time went on we found ourselves agreeing that certain things that we created were worth keeping in future performances- things like "at the beginning of this section player A creates a loop/bed of low rumbling tones while player B plays ascending single notes" etc. I am still using this concept and find it very useful. It allows for some structure you can follow but in no way predetermines what exactly you will play. It fits rather nicely with many loop techniques as the process by which you may create your loop/s is known in advance while WHAT you will create is not. I really like the idea. Cliff www.om-studios.com -----Original Message----- From: ernesto schnack [mailto:schnack@mailbolt.com] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 10:44 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Practice, rehearse, perform On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:40:49 -0800, "Mark" <sine@zerocrossing.net> said: > I'm thinking of abandoning my 100% (except for drums sequences) improv > method of live > music because I'm realizing that it's just too hard to be "there" all the > time. I had a bit of an epiphany about this last night. I tend go for 100% improv too, but it's so hit and miss...I realized that I tend to gravitate towards certain patterns, so I could make "process compositions". Something like "For this piece, I'm gonna record a short chord, then switch to reverse and add some harmonics. Then I'll pass them through a filter..." and so on. So the action would always be the same and would make up the "composition" but the notes would be improvised. Of course I don't see myself following that strictly, but it's a nice way to have a gameplan and have a little consistency...I think...I haven't actually tried it yet... Ernesto -- ernesto schnack http://schnack.does.it -- http://fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service?