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I think the RDS page is looking for a sponsor (someone who can devote the time to content) Anyway, DOD/Digitech seems pretty damn unhelpful in the info gathering process on these. One gent is dealing with MIDI to CV issues right now. He is an active user so you might want to check in with him (you'll see his posts in the last couple of days). I think the lack of information may be one big reason those guys are sleepers From: Kirkland Mack <kirklandmack@sbcglobal.net> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: tools of the trade-why so incomplete? Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:29:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from mc8-f40.law1.hotmail.com ([65.54.253.176]) by mc8-s12.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:30:37 -0800 Received: from hemlock.violacea.com ([207.228.238.9]) by mc8-f40.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:30:36 -0800 Received: (from looper@localhost)by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23471;Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:29:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:29:57 -0500 Old-Return-Path: <kirklandmack@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20021121202956.32967.qmail@web80102.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <nhMj5.A.quF.FJU39@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/27037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Return-Path: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2002 20:30:36.0830 (UTC) FILETIME=[D969A3E0:01C2919C] Hi I'm new here and I was poking around the website trying to get some in depth info on digitech PDS and RDS units as well as earlier BOSS/Roland DDL's which are looper friendly. Basically where I'm coming from is I'm looking for a DDL with 4+seconds of delay, controls which allow me to, at the very least, change the pitch of the loop on the fly, and preferably some kind of sampling mode which I can solo over although this is not vital as I can use an AB box to accomplish this if need be. I don't have a preference as far as pedal vs. rackmount but it has to work well run in front of the amp as I don't have an fx loop and am not about to upgrade or modify my vibrolux reverb ;-) I'm especially interested in sleepers like some of the older BOSS/Roland, Digitech/DOD etc. models (ADA? Ibanez? Deltalab? Korg? Lexicon? TC?) Thanks y'all! Kirk _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail