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> >I totally agree. That pitchshift fed back into itself is getting > >*really* tired, IMO. I love RF, but I think he's got to loose that > >effect. > > Here's one for the old-timers and scholars among you: Who was the > first to use that effect? > -- 1977- Tony Visconti used "pitchshift fed back into itself" on the D.Bowie albums Heroes and Low in order to create his signature snare sound. ........bet he's not the first, but perhaps the earliest high profile user. andy butler