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That sounds like a cool device! My pal Keith would love something like that, as he was an early adopter of the Commodore64 for synthesis. Well, if you've got noise issues, I'd for sure steer clear of the AdrenaLinn, because you're going to have to make sure it's output is low, as to not distort the AdrenaLinn's input. That will further hurt your s/n even though the AdrenaLinn's noisegate is pretty good. There are, however, ways to pad a hot output, and visa versa. I think there was a device discussed on the list that did a back and forth instrument/line conversion for about $60. That's one of the issues with the Repeater's effect loop. Upon hearing all that you've said, I wonder if maybe the Electrix MoFX and Filterfactory might be a better solution for what you're craving. You can probably get the both of them used for a little more than a new AdrenaLinn. I've got the MoFX and it's a nice little workhorse, lot's of knobs to tweak. I know a bunch of people who swear by the Filterfactory. Also, I forgot about the Electrix Warpfactory. Fine piece of loop mangeler, that one is. (it's a vocoder) You might also look into the Line6 Mod and Filter Pros. The price went way down on those ($299), and I think they're set up for line level signals. I can't vouch for them, but I read a lot of good reviews on Harmony Central. good luck, Mark Sottilaro Duke Sexton wrote: > At 06:40 PM 11/27/2002 -0800, Mark wrote: > >I'm not sure what a "sidstation" is, > > Remember the old Commodore C-64, and what a great sound chip it had for >its > time? A couple years back, a little startup synth manufacturer out of > Sweden (Elektron) came up with the idea of building a real working synth > around that very same sound chip. They started grabbing up the remaining > supply of the existing MOS6581 (SID) chips, and putting them together in >a > case with a dedicated synthesizer control architecture around them. You > can check it out over at http://www.sidstation.com. > > >but let me tell you, the AdrenaLinn is an > >instrument level device. I have it almost all the way down and my >Steinberger > >is nearly clipping the input on loud strums. One of the >dissapointments is > >that it wasn't line level. However, it will do line level out. > > Whup, sounds like that's one I'm going to have to watch out for. This > thing is line level out and it is *hot*. I may have to rig up some gear > (i.e. compressor) in between the two in order to prevent distortion on >the > input of the AdrenaLinn. > > >I think the amp models are pretty good, but need some tweaking and >sound a bit > >better before a guitar amp IMO. I mostly use it for the filters and > >modulation > >effects and in that respect, it's quite the amazing beast. Lot's of >room for > >mangleage. > > Mangleage is always good (very good -- heh!). But I'm hoping for >something > that can help me get a leash on this little beast as well. The >Sidstation > can be amazingly subtle, but just as often it can slice through a mix >like > a hot knife melting butter. And here I used to think of the old Arp's > (like the Odyssey or Axxe) as being good for piercing leads. My Sid can > make those synths look downright tame in comparison. > > In addition to the most excellent filter and mod effects, I was hoping >the > AdrenaLinn's amp models might be able to warm up the sound a bit, and add > some grundge without lapsing over into "bumblebee"-territory fuzz (i can > already add some distortion by overdriving the internal circuitry, but >that > pushes the sidstation even further into glass-cutting territory; i'm > looking instead for a bit of warm crunch). > > Oh, and how well does the AdrenaLinn's built-in noise gate work? One of > the unfortunate side-effects of the Sid chip is that it's notorious for > digital noise (i.e. the envelopes close all the way down, yet you can >still > hear the sound in the background). Elektron has done a lot to mitigate > this through the rest of the box (it's dead silent compared to the old > C-64's themselves), but even they recommend a noise gate to deal with >this > final bit of digital dirt. > > >The only reason I sold mine is because my Lexicon MPX1 really does > >more of what I needed it to do, and I don't care about the drum machine > >and amp > >models. > > Hey, thanks bunches for helping me out even though I know you've already > sold your AdrenaLinn. Otherwise, I've merely seen the specs and a couple > of reviews. But after reading the feature set (gate + amp models + >wicked > filters + FX) it seemed as if it might be a good match for a dedicated > processor on the Sidstation. > > Thanks again! > > -c- > > _____ > "i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back" > -recoil