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I found the laser gun would be the first to fail in most CD players circa 1983-1992... My first player died in a month, culprit: laser gun, which would have cost $300 to replace at the time, despite the player costing $180...! When the CD-R/RW drives came along I jumped onboard, using a Yamaha 4416s - and stopped using RW disks altogether. It didn't seem that the technology was mature enough yet, given the number of coasters made from RW disks of just about all vendors. Yes, ESPECIALLY the 50-disc packs Fry's sold from somewhere in Indonesia...! The drive is still functioning fine, though of course I'm only writing at 16x... [shrug] A friend of mine with a Yamaha 24x CDR/RW drive says he's only had trouble with cheap discs, but otherwise all CD players are fine for him. I toggle between Maxell and TDK CD-Rs, avoiding generic disc packs, and don't have a problem on any CD players reported to me - but then this is less than 30 as a sample. As far as CD players go, I think the bugs are out of 'em enough for even a cheap one from an unknown knock-off manufacturer (with the exception that their QA is typically so bad, it's not the laser that goes but the moving parts!) to play CD-Rs. A look through the specs of DVD players shows an odd pattern of CD-R support for playing. Many DVD players made for the first time supported Redbook no problem. Then, sometime between 1999 and now, the specs for players have no support for CD-R. At DVD Europe 2001 and 2002, there was some discussion about this, as a possibly major embarrassment for the DVD player manufacturers, especially since CD-R is a mature, accepted disc format. There was more support for CD-I than CD-R two years ago! Now, look at the Sony web pages extolling their new line of DVD players: ALL of them now play CD-Rs. How was it that there was that period in the beginning when CD-Rs would play, though now it's being touted as a "new feature"? Can you spell, "RIAA"? ;P Sounds at times like they don't all get along, doesn't it? Sony's in a rough spot. They want to protect all that "software" they bought (aka music), but they also make the technology that millions use to duplicate that software, whether legally or otherwise. S.P. Goodman EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery - Cartoons and Illustrations! http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack - Cartoons via Medialine! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" <sine@zerocrossing.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 16:50:PM Subject: Re: CD-R's > I've had older CD players that just didn't seem to do well with most CDs > after a while. Finally getting to a point of not playing any CDs or > CDROMS. Could it be something about the laser getting weaker over time? I > was once told that solid state lasers (LEDs) start developing tiny >cracks, > due to imperfections, which eventually lead to the laser's death. Could > this be the issue with some older CD players? Weaker lasers not being able > to play more imperfect CDROMs? Could CDROM backings sometimes be less > reflective than CD backings? Just curious... > > Mark Sottilaro > > "Stuart Wyatt (Solo String Project)" wrote: > > > I got a couple of > > complaints from purchasers saying that it did not work. They to had old > > CD players. > > > > > > >