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RE: EDP "MetaButtons" - "Stored Procedures" - "Presets" - "Triggers"



Thank you for the in depth reply, Kim, I didn't catch that in the
manual, my mistake.

You could've saved yourself some finger time by just typing RTFM.

Be well,

D



Dylan DeAnda

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@loopers-delight.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:37 PM
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: EDP "MetaButtons" - "Stored Procedures" - "Presets" -
"Triggers"

At 01:49 PM 12/9/2002, Dylan DeAnda wrote:
>Is there a way to "Preset" different modes in the edp?
>
>For example, you have a "mode" that you use for a specific effect or
>function, and it's defined as specific quantization value, insert mode,
>record mode, etc.
>
>1.  Is there any way to define a "mode" and then call that "mode"
>arbitrarily?

yes, assuming you are using LoopIV. LoopIV has Presets that let you
store 
parameter settings and recall them. You can do this most easily with
MIDI 
program change messages, but it is also possible to change presets from
the 
front panel.

see the Presets section of the LoopIV manual:
http://www.aurisis.com/products/loopIV/loopIV.html


>2.  Is there any way to store a predefined button sequence in the edp?
>Sort of like a "metabutton" that sets you up?

It depends what you want to do.

If you want this in order to edit parameters on the fly, it is likely
much 
easier to do the same thing using Presets. You can switch presets on the

fly much easier than editing the parameters. You can also use MIDI SysEx

messages to directly edit any parameter, but of course that means a bit 
more programming of a midi controller.

If your goal is to be able to access all of the InsertMode functions at
the 
same time, LoopIV now has them all available by MIDI. These are in the 
VirtualButton set of midi commands, since they act just like the front 
panel buttons would.   So for example, if you want to use Reverse, 
HalfSpeed, Replace, and Insert all on the same loop, you could have a
midi 
controller set up with the VirtualButton for each one, and directly use 
them. This is much easier than with LoopIII, where you had to change the

InsertMode parameter each time to program the Insert button to these
functions.

If you want to directly access functions that normally take several
button 
presses or long-presses to reach on the front panel, LoopIV helps you
there 
also. LoopIV has a greatly expanded MIDI implementation, and the
DirectMIDI 
set of midi commands directly access all of these more complex
operations. 
This way you can have a single button on a midi controller to do
something 
instantly that takes more effort from the front. For example, if you
were 
working with an external sequencer or looper and want to DeAlign and 
ReAlign your loops, there are several flavors of the ReAlign functions 
directly available by MIDI. From the front panel you have to press Mute 
first, and then Multiply to use ReAlign.

(there are many more DirectMIDI functions available of course, for
example, 
all the main functions have SUS action versions available in MIDI, in 
addition to the normal toggle versions.)

>I'd like to trigger a prescribed sequence of actions while I'm
>scratching on the turntables or singing, so that I can focus more on
one
>instrument than the edp.
>
><In rereading that last line, I think I answered my own questions, it
>sounds like I may just need a sequencer........damn...that's not what I
>want, I just want that functionality in my edp.>

If what you want to do is several different functions at once on a loop,
it 
is possible by midi from a decent midi controller. You don't have to use
a 
sequencer unless you specifically want the actions timed rhythmically to
a 
clock. The better midi controllers will let you set up a string of midi 
commands to go with one button. For example, you could have a single
button 
that sends Overdub, HalfSpeed, and Reverse all at once. You can develop 
some really interesting custom functions in this way.

kim


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