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At 11:27 AM 12/16/2002 -0500, SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: >Have you considered a 1u mixer, there's a number >of options available. Well you'd have to troll the used market, but since I'm using 'em myself let me throw in a plug for the Simmons SPM 8:2. It's 1U rackmount with 8-in, 2-out, 2 mono effect send/returns and a headphone output. Each channel has individual high, low, and sweepable parametric mid for EQ. In addition, 128 presets can be stored then individually recalled via MIDI. You can control/store the rate that the each individual presets will "fade" from one program to the next, giving you rough scene-automation capability. Also, there are built in tremelo and phase effects that may be applied individually to each channel. Caveats are that individual units can be a bit noisy (especially earlier software revs; most of the biggest problems were worked out by ROM revision 3 or 4, though). You can pretty much take care of that, however, by carefully setting the trim pot on each channel when first setting up the unit. I've got four SPM 8:2's -- two earlier and two later models -- and now that I've got their input gain properly tuned I can tell the difference between them if I try, but only just. Also, the front panel controls can be a bit fiddly (then again, I've got pretty big fingers) but they're cramming a whole buncha functions into a 1U faceplate. These little guys creep up every once in a while on Ebay for pretty decent prices. I see one went a couple weeks ago for $90 and... good gods, somebody turned one around for $27, as well. Anyway, looks like you could get a good deal on one of these if you keep an eye out. -c- _____ "i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back" -recoil