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Rick, In a message dated 1/2/03 7:45:42 PM, GLOBAL@cruzio.com writes: >Rick Walker here. I'm a percussionist and thought I might be of some >assistance with your dilemma. Etc., etc., etc. Thanks Rick! It just so happens that this is helpful info for me too. I'm doing a very rare (for me) all-acoustic guitar looping gig in February -- just my Lakewood M32 (which hardly ever leaves home) a little combo amp and some (as yet un-procured) loop pedal of some sort. I've been scratching my head for ideas and this thread reminded me of all the other cool non-stringy sounds a guitar can make. Thanks for the input on Patrick's question -- I benefited as well. BTW: As a Line6 DL-4 maven, have you any advice on where to pick up a used one of those for a decent price? I don't wanna schlepp my 16-space rack of doom (with EDPs and cabs and all) to this quiet, low-key gig. I'm trying to pare down to a nice, very portable, and minimal loop setup for this thing. I figure the DL-4 will suit my needs for achieving this goal just fine. I'd appreciate your thoughts if you don't mind sharing them. Ciao! tEd ® kiLLiAn http://www.mp3s.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.mp3.com/Ophelia_Pancake