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btw, for those who are interested, Eno's article is on a webpage at: http://www.counterpunch.org/eno1230.html -Michael (thanking Eno for speaking out). btw are political articles written by our ambient/loop gods off topic here? maybe, but then it looks like a loop repetition to me that a Bush goes to war against Hussein again - just like 12 years ago. Back then, I recently read, about 500,000 civilians were killed. I'm sure that there are one or two readers of this list here who think it was justified anyway, and would do it again now - after all, hey, a few thousand Americans were brutally killed on 9/11, so anything is justified now, why not kill another 500,000 moslems again, just to show them who is in charge on this planet! Oh my god, I'm starting flame wars again. I'm sorry, really.